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Here is what a friend of mine said to me recently:
sometimes i feel india doesn't deserve ppl like singh and sonia gandhi...
Now it's very easy to figure out which Singh he was referring to...comments please...
The Hero’s Journey
4 weeks ago
Hmm... Manmohan singh is a good and knowledgeable person, but not a good leader to lead a country like India.
ReplyDeleteSonia Gandhi has just greatness thrust on her and she has definitely not lived upto its expectations. May be her hindi has improved....
completely agree on Singh...he may be vastly knowledgeable about how an economy should function but he is not a good leader...he should stick to being what he is good at...being the finance minister...
ReplyDeleteROTFL aboout the hindi comment on SG...frankly I never had any expectations from her...
How do you define a good leader?
ReplyDeleteAhem Ahem...
ReplyDeleteSeriously, I mean that's what I can only say...
I feel like hurling a volley of expletives at Sonia Gandhi.. And Manmohan is her puppet..India really does not deserve them! V deserve much better
ReplyDelete@ Rebel - How would you define a good leader because I find it easier to look at someone like MMS and see what a good leader shouldn't be :)
ReplyDeleteI suggest you read some of the articles published in recent times about Mr. Singh to understand why people don't think he's been a good leader
@ Rakesh - I can sense that you are skirting the issue at hand ;)
@ Swats - wow I wouldn't go to that extreme of hurling expletives at her but you got the latter part perfectly right...I wanted to say the same thing to my friend that India deserves much better but didn't just cos I didn't want to enter into an argument...I really din't understand what my friend sees in her...why does he think that she is kind of a martyr who has sacrificed her life for india...bloody hell...she gets to live life queen size courtesy the other foolish politicians in her party and the voting public just because she is the widow of former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi...where is the sacrifice element in it...
See - I like what Swats says :)
ReplyDeleteI did not say he is a good leader and I did not say he is a bad leader. I was just curious as to how you define a leader.
ReplyDeleteThough there is one point I would like to make. Good articulation and public speaking should not be viewed as the only criterion to differentiate a good leader from a non-leader.
About Sonia Gandhi, I think neither you nor I are in a position to judge whether what she has done is a sacrifice or monetisation of her status.
Its a never-ending debate, and I think there is no right or wrong here. Both of us are entitled to our own views.
@ Rebel - You got it wrong when you thought I was referring to good articulation and public speaking when I referred to deficiencies in MMS...if you had followed some of the recent articles you would have understood that these were the least mentioned points for criticising MMS...when I think of a good leader the least I want is someone who can take their own decisions and not be a puppet in the hands of someone else...like one of the articles I read mentioned how degrading it is if the PM of the country has to answer to some other individual...a PM answerable to the Parliament is obviously desirable but not to an individual...there are other points which I can mention but like you said we have our opinions and there is no right or wrong...
ReplyDeleteAbout SG I think she would have been a good leader (not that I wanted her to be one) because she can stand for herself...about the sacrifice part I think we the people of India have every right to judge whether she made a sacrifice or not...
Reb, excuse me, what sacrifice are you talking about? I mean, she's just bored of her widow existance so she walks into the office of the Congress party and they carry her to the top seat.
ReplyDeleteNo social service history, no experience of dealing with people, not even Hindi - the national language... Her only claim to fame is she was the love interest and subsequently the wife of our ex-PM.
What did she sacrifice? If you're talking about her husband, then c'mmon, she did not sacrifice him. He was the Prime Minister for God's sake.
You know, atleast the other dynastys - the Scindias etc. at least are involved in some social work at least but not SG. Not a single thing after the demise of RG, and then one fine day, she just walks back in to play the 'White Woman'.
Please, can't we, a nation of a billion people, find 1 individual amongst us to lead us, Are we still so crazy about imported products?
Rakesh, as I said, you are entitled to your opinion and I am to mine. If I think it is a sacrifice, so be it. By the way, if you remember, she was the one who dissuaded RG to the limits NOT to join politics. For years and years after his death, she was the one who declined all calls to enter politics.
ReplyDeleteAnd since when has social service and speaking Hindi been considered a prerequisite for entering politics? She is a very astute and shrewd politician, and I guess she has proved that in previous years. The biggest example being offering the PM seat to MS.
And plz, the people of the country cannot hold dynasty and foreign origin against SG when they are not ready to hold the Godhra massacre against Modi.
Having said that, I don't think Sonia would have been a good PM. I do not even support her as a PM candidate, but as of now, I think SG and MS would be able to lead the country much better as compared to LKA.
Well, no amount of ranting can make us change each other's opinions. So, as they say, lets agree to disagree.
Sorry, galat ID se post ho gaya. But main hi hoon. :)
ReplyDeleteReb, Getting Jiggy with it eh???
ReplyDeleteWell actually, I don't disagree with you that given the options, I'd still vote for the Congress today but the question was about SG and MMS not about LKA.
Personally, I like LKA these days for the things he's saying but not the entire party. As I party, I agree with you that Congress can lead the country only a tad better than the BJP. But if the BJP cleans up its act and moves away from religional issues, it sure can serve India better.
@ Rebs - I can see where this discussion is headed...so not to make it a long winded heated discussion...would like to make just one point...what proof do you have of Modi's involvement in the massacre? I am sure none...now I remember you mentioning that one needs facts to support a statement...if you think that Modi should be held liable then similarly the entire Congress govt should be held liable for the 1984 Sikh riots...of course nothing has ever been proven and I am sure nothing will ever be proven...and come on man...how can you even compare a fact about SG's foreign origin and dynasty to the Godhra massacre...the former doesn't need any proof while the latter definitely needs proof...
ReplyDelete@ Rakesh - I would like to end this discussion here as I know that pursuing it any further would not result in any mature discussion as it seems some of our friends don't like to play by the same rules as they want others to play...
Learn to keep your on-blog life and off-blog life seperate...thats all i can say
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